Orange Fleur di Lys (above).

Despite the lack of scientific testing, we felt that the trip report sent to by bubblesxoxo was disturbing enough to be noted.  Here it is:

Date Submitted: June 20, 2010, 10:00 pm GMT
Submitted By: bubblesxoxo
Name: Orange Saints
State/Province: norcal
Logo: Saint logo
Colour: orange (and green)
Shape: round
Height: 4 mm
Width: 4 mm
Texture: na
Edges: round
Report Quality Rating: not rated
Description: green and orange saints – same thing.
Suspected Contents: Piperazine + Another
Rating: Tested Only
Warning: yes
Tested: no
Consumed: yes

i popped ONEt orange sainr(i usually pop around 2 and am fine) and i was getting bounds of energy going in and out for HOURS. it was great, until about 6 hours when i had a stroke. i had irregular heartbeat, palpitations, couldn’t breathe properly, i was dizzy, i had slight hallucinations, i had a splitting pounding headache, i couldnt MOVE because when i stood up i would get dizzy and once when i didnt sit down i just passed out for a bit and fell. it felt as if my heart was about to give out and as if my brain was splitting in half or some shit. my friend drove me to park in front of the hospital because i was that ready to go in and the only thing that stopped me was the consequences of being drug tested.

my friends also took one each and they got side effects like nausea and stomach aches and headaches, but they didnt last for them. however, ive also heard that these were the pills that killed that one person at etd pop and got a bunch of others hospitalized.

from what ive heard these pills sound like they were pipes. and they might seem great in the beginning, but watch out cause it might end up being the worst experience of your life.

and right now, 13 hours after i popped and maybe 7 hours after the bad experience. i cant move properly because my heart fucking HURTS, though im able to breathe and dont have a huge headache anymore (maybe just a little one). im considering myself lucky to be alive.

We’ve been telling you about how dangerous these pills are, and about the dangers of PMA.

Remember, these pills are called Saints, like bubblesxoxo refers to them, but should be better knows as Fleur di Lys, and as Adidas’ by some.  Stay clear.

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Utah’s Green Fleur di Lys (above).

Orange and Blue Fleur di Lys.

Manitoba’s Peach Fleur di Lys (above).

What do all of the above pills have in common, besides the Fleur di Lys/Saints/”Adidas” stamp?  They’ve all received bad reports on, and we have good reason to believe they are PMA–the dangerous chemical paramethoxyamphetamine.

We have been tracking these pills with much personal interest, because the Blue Fleur di Lys showed up in our neck of the woods here in NYC, and people we know gave them terrible reviews, and talked about “not feeling right” on them.  So we’ve now heard or read reports from New York, California, Manitoba, Alberta, and now Utah, for Fleur di Lys ranging in colors from orange to peach to green to blue to red (though we have no actual photos of the blue and red ones).  We also saw PMA Mercedes hits in Brooklyn a few months back.  The links below about them and the comments are very informative.

Here’s whiteboiyy’s report from Utah this evening:

Date Submitted: June 16, 2010, 7:44 pm GMT
Last Updated: June 16, 2010, 7:54 pm GMT
Submitted By: whiteboiyy
Name: Saints
State/Province: Utah
Logo: Saints/fleur-de-lis
Colour: Green
Shape: round
Texture: waxy
Edges: waxy
Report Quality Rating: (5 stars, 1 vote)
Description: Waxy texture, domed on side with logo. light green with white speckles
Suspected Contents: Unknown
Rating: Adulterated
Warning: yes
Tested: no
Consumed: yes
User Report: Consumed 1 pill at 11:00 am. Felt effects 40 min later, though effects not of MDMA at all. Vomited at or around 12:30. Felt nautious the rest of the day. No appetite all day. No hallucinations, but I felt like I was on a sycadelic, remember I only took 1. Have no idea what is in these pills, but I read a similar report calling these 2-cb. I am certain there is no MDMA. BUNK!!! stay away from these for sure.

We’d like to strongly remind everyone to stay away from all Fleur di Lys pills, anywhere in North America.  We’d also like to warn anyone in Australia to be extremely careful about what they pick up, as for some reason, PMA hits are prevalent in Australia, and PMA has caused many deaths in the Australian club scene.  The link above “New Model White Mercedes Safe” pictures PMA Mercedes in Australia, and discusses more specifically their PMA problem.

COMMON & BRAND NAMES4-MAEFFECTS CLASSIFICATIONPsychedelic StimulantCHEMICAL NAMEpara-methoxy-amphetamineDESCRIPTIONPMA is a strong psychedelic which may cause dangerous overheating of the body. PMA has been sold in ecstasy tablets, and has lead to dangerous and fatal hyperthermia is some users.

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Peach Fleur di Lys (above).

Orange/Peach and Green Fleur di Lys have surfaced in Alberta, Canada, and like Orange and Blue Fleur di Lys (Saints, Adidas’), which have shown up in San Francisco and New York, based on bad trip reports, we believe the pills to contain the dangerous chemical paramethoxyamphetamine (PMA).  Look at the links below that discuss bad Fleur di Lys and the dangerous drug PMA that showed up in Mercedes hits that were floating around Brooklyn a few months back, and then read the trip report closely submitted by tna me to

Date Submitted: June 5, 2010, 4:48 am
Last Updated: June 5, 2010, 5:29 am
Submitted By: tna me
Name: Orange & Green Saint
State/Province: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Logo: Saints football team logo
Colour: Orange & Green
Shape: Round, flat bottoms
Texture: Outside was chalky, Middle was ROCK hard
Edges: some where smooth others rough
Report Quality Rating: not rated
Description: Their light orange on the outside but a few rubs of the fingers reveals a solid white base. Same thing with the greens. Lime green shell covering a solid white pill. almost every pill i got was a different size, alot had rough edges well a few where perfect presses. Most of the logos where really pressed inwards well 3 had the logos outwards. A bit chalky but if you crack it in half the middle is rock hard… Almost every single one had a large fissure down the middle and could be split clean down it with my finger nails. (These where sold to me as “E” so watch out)
Suspected Contents: Unknown
Rating: Unknown
Warning: yes
Tested: no
Consumed: yes
User Report: To start off i want to say i have about 6 years experience doing this on a regular bases and this was by far the worst experience i have had. This is more of a warning as for a honestly was scared after taking these. I’m a male 6’4, 245 Pound and in great shape.

(All times are a rounded off guesstimate)

(Friday june 3rd)

6AM – Take 1 green, 1 Orange.

715AM – Feeling really good like a normal MDMA come up

745am – MDMA feeling has been replaced by indescribable sickness and hallucinations. I have tryed pure lsd and some 2c based pills and neither even came close to making me hallucinate like these did.

945am – Sweating insanely bad, but at the same time i’m cold and feel as if i need a blanket. I also felt dehydrated. Puked for about 15mins straight. Still hallucinating extremely bad.

1015am – Felt so hot i jumped into a ice cold shower where i fulled watched 2 episodes of the tv show “house”, in my mind well i had my eyes closed… I could remember every detail. Came too freezing from the ice water, and puked for another 10 minutes or so but this time it helped a bit. I felt alittle normal, could actually collect a thought.

1045am – I get a burst of energy i guess… More like a boost of rage, I just wanted to hit something and even screamed and pulled my hair… still well hallucinating like never before.

1120am – Puked a bunch more and it made me feel a lot better this time, so i pulled out my valcano and i smoke some weed. Weed helped with the racing mind a lot. Not hallucinating as bad anymore.

12Pm – Body feels complete run down but at the same time im so wide awake its annoying me, open eye hallucinations have stopped pretty much, Still see patterns and colors and a youtube video i watched all the peoples had skeleton faces, not whole heads just their faces. Still pretty intense closed eye visuals. i don’t feel very sick anymore but its a struggle to get up and move, like my legs and so tired i cant move them but im still so wide awake. I walk home (was at a friends watching his place for him for the night)

1230PM – get home, have a shower, Smoke a bunch of weed and lay down to go to sleep. Still feeling totally fucked up, still seeing patterns and colors, still intense closed eye visuals. still feel wide awake. I lay in bed with my eyes closed till 6Pm.

6PM – Get up feeling like crap. Bad gas, Puking a bit, Headache, Stomache ache, i feel cold and just sick like i had a bad flu. still having a bit of closed eye visuals and stuff is still moving around with my eyes open. Force down a bowl of cornflakes & and sandwidtch with actually made me feel a bit better followed by alot of weed and advil.

7PM – Finally fall asleep and i had some competely wacked out dreams.

12am – Wake up, Stuff is still moving around with open eyes, Close eye visuals are gone, Still feel like a got a bad flu. I stayed up to like 3am then fell back asleep and slept till 530PM the next day without waking up once.

I feel fine today but man was it bad… Do not think for one minute about doing these. Worst pill every… I have told every one i know in my town to stay as far from these as you can. Because these could probably kill a small girl trying to have fun with some mdma. (i heard they mite have killed a girl in edmonton but i obviously cant confirm that)

These where sold to me as “E” from some one i trusted and have bought from for a few years so be carefully, Just because you trust you dealer it doesn’t mean you should be careful.

When we called on the nation to be on the look out for Fleur di Lys, we should have included Canada in the alert as well.  No one should buy any pills right now with the Fleur di Lys/Saints stamp.  We are still anxiously awaiting test results on these pills, but even without, we tend to agree with those who are suggesting that they are PMA.

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Orange and Blue Fleur dy Lis, as they should properly be referred to, but who some call Saints, and even worse, some call Adidas’, are suspected to contain the very dangerous, evel lethal chemical, paramethoxyamphetamine (PMA).  We have tracked PMA White Mercedes on this site, that turned up in Brooklyn, close to home, in March.  The links are below.

While the report, though untested, came to from lilraverboi, from San Francisco, we are putting out more of warning to the nation than just California, because we have seen these pills up close and now someone who had a bad trip on the Blue Fleur dy Lis, and it is a fact that these pills have been going around New York.

We urge you all to read the information on PMA in the links, to take note of the color chart provided, and to read lilraverboi’s report.

Date Submitted: June 2, 2010, 6:44 am GMT
Last Updated: June 2, 2010, 10:40 am GMT
Submitted By: lilraverboi
Name: Fleur de Lis / Saints
State/Province: CA – San Francisco
Logo: Fleur de Lis / Saints
Colour: Orange / Blue
Shape: round
Texture: chalky
Report Quality Rating: not rated
Description: chalky and loosely pressed and crumbled easily. bitter taste but slightly abnormal
Suspected Contents: Unknown
Rating: Adulterated
Warning: yes
Tested: no
Consumed: yes
User Report: WARNING– this pill is NOT MDMA!My friend got these pills this last weekend and had a really awful experience with it, so I want to share it with others so it doesn’t happen to anyone else. Based on the reaction my friends who took it had, I suspect it was PMA, but I can’t be sure without a test.Basically she experienced:
a slight feeling that she at first thought was a mild roll, followed by extreme hot and cold flashes, nausea, extreme anxiety, irritability, disorientation, vomiting, slowed perception of time, dizziness. She did not feel good at all and we left the party before midnight because she felt so sick.. then she was up until 5 am throwing up and shivering in bed.As a side note, I heard on the news that at least one person died at this event and as of yet they have not determined if the cause of death was tainted drugs.

She got them in two colors– blue and orange, I will post identical reports for both.

Please be careful!!

**Mod Edit**

Since this isnt really a user report and more a warning about adulterated pills, I will attach the guide on how to use a test kit, what the colors mean and how you would test for certain chemicals.

Bearlove 🙂


We are very sorry for lilraverboi’s friend and hope they are okay.  Now would somebody please get us a test result on the Blue and Orange Fleur dy Lis?

Guess ‘Frisco isn’t a Pokeball town yet…

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Above is a Pink Mercedes, not a Red Mercedes, as it’s being called in some parts.  This pill is getting high marks in Arizona, and tests well, as you can see–the results are pictured.  Our thanks to thizzgod who tested the pill and sent in his findings to  Check out thizzgod’s full report:

Date Submitted: April 26, 2010, 2:19 am GMT
Submitted By: thizzgod
Name: Red Mercedes
State/Province: AZ
Logo: Mercedes
Colour: Red
Shape: Circle
Texture: waxy
Edges: slightly domed
Report Quality Rating: not rated
Description: Havent taken but tested.
heard good things so far
seems to be a chill and enjoy yourself pill…similar to molly(from what im hearing)
Suspected Contents: MDxx
Rating: Tested Only
Warning: no
Tested: yes
Marquis Reagent: Black
Mecke Reagent: Blue
Simons Reagent: Blue
Consumed: no

Hopefully thizzgod gets his colors right next time, but still a very good report.  Please notice that the pill has not been consumed.  In case you are wondering and should you become a tester, you want your pills to go black on the Marquis Reagant test.  MDxx generally means that the pill contains MDMA, MDA, or MDE–all things you would want to trip on and would willingly pay for.  Unfortunately, without a laboratory test, the results do not get more specific.  If the portion of pill tested does not turn black/purple, then the pill does not contain anything you would want to consume.

To purchase a kit, go to

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P.S.  thizzgod refers to something called “molly”, which is pure MDMA, usually powder form, and sometimes is found in capsules.

After Brooklyn was hit with a dangerous White Mercedes, suspected contents para-methoxyamphetamine (P.M.A.), which we talked about earlier in the month, we now have a good report on what we suspect is a real White Mercedes pill, courtesy of d3so89, out of the Washington D.C. area, posted on April 2, 2010.

Sorry we couldn’t get a better picture of the pill above, as we would have liked to give you as large a shot as possible so that you may make out the aesthetic differences between the good and bad White Mercedes, as subtle as they may or may not be.  Below is the picture of the PMA White Mercedes from Brooklyn.  Notice how basic the stamp is, compared to the more detailed stamp and total imprint on the ones above.

The Brooklyn PMA pill pictured directly above has a very fuzzy imprint.   Also notice that in this enlarged pic we can make out that the pill is beveled, though the bevel is very light, and that the pill isn’t a strong white, but more of an off white color.  The pill pictured at the top of the page is stamped very cleanly with a thicker Mercedes emblem, and the emblem is complete with the circle around it–not a bevel, which is when the edges of the pill are carved, but a circle at the edge of the pill in the case of the first picture, that upon study is a part of the logo.

When we brought you our science entry called More on White Mercedes, we mentioned that another PMA Mercedes had been making the rounds late in the year, and that a number of PMA pills have been reported from Australia.

That pill, from Victoria in Melbourne, Australia was posted to by Halfkast, and as you can see, it looks similar to the pill, suspected contents MDMA, that is pictured at the very top.  This may seem inconsequential, but notice how the Australian PMA Mercedes have a thickness in the middle of the stamp where the lines converge.  I am going to say that this pill, while being labeled a White Mercedes, does not have an actual Mercedes logo–a very important distinction.  The way in which people describe these pills is a very important factor in determining what is out there.  Quick story: once there was a pill that everyone was talking about, that everyone  called Bad Boys II.  Apparently a pill looking very close was featured in that movie.  Some people don’t watch movies though.  The real name of the pill was Blue Naked Ladies.  Everyone knows Naked Ladies and hardly nobody knows Bad Boys II, so there was tremendous confusion over this pill, and it wasn’t until some people who knew more about pills than movies had them in hand that the confusion was dispelled.

As for those white pills from Victoria, I don’t know what they should be called, but they probably shouldn’t be called White Mercedes, in the interest of being as accurate as possible when reporting on what’s out there.  And for the only legitimate Mercedes pill pictured on this page (top), d3so89 wrote up a fine account, which you can read here:

Please note that d3so89 posts from the DC/Virginia area and notes that what they feel are the same pills are floating around the midwest, and that they appear identical and were tested and were found to be legitimate.

Before I go watch Breaking Bad, I wanted to thank my Aunt and cousin, who I learned earlier, are fans of this page.  Thanks very much!  I’m trying, fam!


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So that’s an image of the offending pill, which was sent to by michellekaa, on February 15th, 2010.  We obviously thank michellekaa as well as any other person who takes their valuable time to spread important information.

Dr. J picked up the ball from there and ran with it.  On pillreports, PMA (Para Methoxy Amphetamine) is listed as the suspected contents.  Our own Dr. J, who is way better than yours truly in the areas of science, research, and technology was able to trace the pill and its ingredients definitively with the help of  Don’t ask me how he did it.  I asked him how he did it, and still can’t convey it properly.  But we can trust Dr. J.  He spent many years as a moderator on in the categories “harm reduction” and “pill testing and adulterants,” I believe, and a lot of us should be thanking him for his contientious work there.

I was able to do a little pill tracing myself, and found that another White Mercedes, suspected contents PMA, was floating around in Victoria (Australia), in November, 2009.  Also, that pure M.D.M.A. pills, also White Mercedes, showed up in many places throughout North America in 2009.

That’s a very scary part of all of this: people looking to hurt the community, or make quick money, or both, will mix up some bunk or dangerous shit and then put it out with a recognizable, desirable stamp.  This is a phenomenon in the club scene mostly related to economics.  A good, strong pill comes out, and then a littany of copy cats and fakes follow.  But usually, they are just sucky pills–not dangerous ones.  That is why it is important, when giving information about a pill, to be as specific as possible, including height, weight, impressed, outpressed, beveled, scored, color, etc. 

Since we don’t have all the specifics yet on the White Mercedes, and especially the Australian model, we can’t say that they are both the same pill or from the same maker.  But November of 09 is not too far removed from February 15th, 2010 and these pills do tend to make their way around the globe.  We’ll keep you informed.

Mercedes…a moniker for death since Nazi Germany!  I wonder if that was not meant to be some horrible ironic clue, as some times the stamps on pills do bear historic significance.  That’s a topic for another day.

Dr. J was willing to elucidate to me why he is probably right about these PMA pills, and why I am probably wrong.  I now agree with him.  We are hoping the Dr. gets on here and files a post on this subject.  He explains science much more easily than I do, and we would all benefit and be enlightened by his words.

Until he does, I will just paraphrase:

–Probably not an economic thing because PMA costs more to manufacture than M.D.M.A.  So who would want to overspend where it is avoidable?

–PMA is a schedule I narcotic, like M.D.M.A., and carries the same legal penalties.

–Russian and other Eastern Bloc chemists are among  the most skilled, well schooled, and resourceful chemists in the world.  If they didn’t have safrole or piperonal to start with (piperonal and safrole are the starting chemicals for many Methyl group chemicals), they could easily extract safrole from sassafrass.  They would not have any reason or derive any benefit from the manufacture of PMA. 

By the way, in doing our research, we found that several PMA pills have popped up in Australia in the last 5 years, so we caution our brethren down under to be careful, and to buy test kits if they are going to trip.

Tonight we also thank Mr. White for many reasons.  For one, he figured out how to post a pic of Brooklyn, New York’s PMA White Mercedes in the space above.  For another, he calls to our attention tonight’s episode of Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe, on Discovery at 11 pm EST.  I have to thank Mr. White because I am just hearing about this program for the 1st time apparently, in its 5th season.  I am sorry I missed it!  Tonight, Rowe infiltrates a rendering plant.  This is a must see.  When you see the way the animals are handled, you may understand a little more about why Mad Cow is an important problem to Formula 411.

Separate space is warranted to enlighten you guys on Mr. White’s latest purchase–a device that I will encourage all of you with a certain disposition to switch over to.  This too, we will get into at a more appropriate time.




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